PA with crits

Something that I always wanted to try is to get PA with 4 burizas, 1 satanic and BoT. Can you believe all the crits and all the life steal you would get? Instead of having 4 burizas you can also replace 2 of them by divine.... scary, I know.

4 burzas stack with PAs crit?

nico12 wrote:

4 burzas stack with PAs crit?

Dont know, when I do it I'll tell you.

lol, how are u going to find a game that farms u sooo much, enabling you to get 4 burizas?!?!

Getting Buriza on PA is BAD. The fact is if you get a crit from Buriza and PA's ultimate at the same time, Buriza overrides it. This means you are knocking out the best crit in the game for a weaker crit. Getting 4 Burizas will not stack the crit damage either. All it means is more separate chances to land a Buriza crit. However, getting a Monkey King Bar will not conflict with PA's ultimate.

yea i didnt think they would stack, and plus u get no health from those items so it kind blows...sure u have like +300dmg, u better hope like hell u dont get stunned to death

Phamily_Guy wrote:

Getting Buriza on PA is BAD. The fact is if you get a crit from Buriza and PA's ultimate at the same time, Buriza overrides it. This means you are knocking out the best crit in the game for a weaker crit. Getting 4 Burizas will not stack the crit damage either. All it means is more separate chances to land a Buriza crit. However, getting a Monkey King Bar will not conflict with PA's ultimate.

The critical that is gotten last will overide the others... So buriza overiding is pretty much true 99% of the time b/c you would have gotten your ultimate before you got your buriza. MKB is a great item for her, but the ministuns dont crit. Most of the time people just stack Battlefury's and grab a MKB + Satanic. When you have massive splashing crits, its pretty insane.

riv_01d wrote:

Phamily_Guy wrote:

Getting Buriza on PA is BAD. The fact is if you get a crit from Buriza and PA's ultimate at the same time, Buriza overrides it. This means you are knocking out the best crit in the game for a weaker crit. Getting 4 Burizas will not stack the crit damage either. All it means is more separate chances to land a Buriza crit. However, getting a Monkey King Bar will not conflict with PA's ultimate.

The critical that is gotten last will overide the others... So buriza overiding is pretty much true 99% of the time b/c you would have gotten your ultimate before you got your buriza. MKB is a great item for her, but the ministuns dont crit. Most of the time people just stack Battlefury's and grab a MKB + Satanic. When you have massive splashing crits, its pretty insane.

Well, I have always been a fan of getting MKB after a Battlefury for the chance to throw off channeling spells. Also, it adds to PA's already high damage output without screwing up her ultimate.

It's also really nice costwise as a pure damage item.... only battlefury is better than it in cost efficency (besides sacred relic and rapier).

My build is pretty standard: boots, 2 bracers, helm, mkb.

Deso stacks with crits quite nicely--I've done deso/vlads before with some success as well.

ohhhh deso
sounds sexy...
would own pretty hard

yeah deso also looks cool its like a floating black ball....

deso is ill on her..

but i feel like you need to go butterfly and lifesteal with her or you're just wasting your time.
mkb is sick too, but i'd wait atleast until i got my bfly and my helm...

blazingwinter wrote:

deso is ill on her..

but i feel like you need to go butterfly and lifesteal with her or you're just wasting your time.
mkb is sick too, but i'd wait atleast until i got my bfly and my helm...

Butterfly is actually really hard to farm up on her although it provides exactly what she needs: Atk speed and damage, but the evasion is pretty wasted... I usually go helm+bfury/mkb+armlet on her... then upgrade to satanic and get more bfurys

riv_01d wrote:

blazingwinter wrote:

deso is ill on her..

but i feel like you need to go butterfly and lifesteal with her or you're just wasting your time.
mkb is sick too, but i'd wait atleast until i got my bfly and my helm...

Butterfly is actually really hard to farm up on her although it provides exactly what she needs: Atk speed and damage, but the evasion is pretty wasted... I usually go helm+bfury/mkb+armlet on her... then upgrade to satanic and get more bfurys

Truth. Paying all of that gold is such a waste for 2 extra evasion. I would just stick with getting 1-2 Battlefuries, MKB, and probably more health with a Heart.

has anyone played armlet+mask of madness on her?

it's typically a str hero build, but both active spells on at once is pretty devastating wrt attack speed and health.

arc wrote:

has anyone played armlet+mask of madness on her?

it's typically a str hero build, but both active spells on at once is pretty devastating wrt attack speed and health.

I've tried it, but I usually get disabled and owned with the extra 20% increase damage. It's good for ganking and 1v1 and even picking people off though.

what about butterfly?
i know the atk speed and evasion.. do the evas stack?

i know i usually go hand of midas on PA with a satanic and boots
thats all i usually have time for in a game when i am her

Dhalsim wrote:

what about butterfly?
i know the atk speed and evasion.. do the evas stack?

i know i usually go hand of midas on PA with a satanic and boots
thats all i usually have time for in a game when i am her

The evasion doesnt stack so all you really gain is 2% evasion from butterfly. Armlet is really good because it adds survival, damage and attack speed for cheap.

ill try it ^_^ wewt

Disables are the only problem for Mortred but I still love her my build is usually,

Bracer
Bracer
Boots
Vlads
Deso

Then the game is usually over but if it isn't, because of people leaving

Butterfly
Heart (for fun)

I would just stick with shooting for a Battlefury after Treads and some Bracers. Battlefury gives her some nice regen, damage, and a chance to take advantage of her monster crit that only gets stronger as the game continues.

My Build is usually 2xBracers + Treads (switch agi and str when needed) then battlefury + HotD + Armlet... overall its pretty cheap

Phamily_Guy wrote:

I would just stick with shooting for a Battlefury after Treads and some Bracers. Battlefury gives her some nice regen, damage, and a chance to take advantage of her monster crit that only gets stronger as the game continues.

Battle Fury is great for farming up the next items after Battle Fury but Deso is great for absolutely destroying heros. They rely on different playstyles (midgame focus on farming/laning vs. midgame focus on hero killing), but I think that Deso/Vlads is also an excellent choice.

i think deso would be better for PA, but again, that is my playstyle, i never really liked bfury even though the splash is nice
i think the armor reduction is more beneficial for the PA since her crits are high